USPS issued warning letter to postal employees about campaigning against changes in mail service
Warning letter form USPS District Manager via 21CPW.com
As you are aware, in specific circumstances some of our Postal employees have actively become engaged in discontinuance study community meetings, to the detriment of USPS communications with actual customers. Some of our Postal employees have written congressmen and senators, beseeching their assistance in stopping discontinuance studies. Some have banded together with Postal retirees, in an effort to sidestep pr stop processes geared toward bringing our organization back to financial stability. This type of activity is restricted.
667.12 Engaging in Campaigns for Changes in Mail Service
Employees in active status must not engage in campaigns for or against changes in mail service. This regulation must not be construed to infringe on the rights to participate in labor organizations.
Management should realize we are not just an employee but we are also a CUSTOMER TOO! As a customer we have the right to ask for proper service.
OK all of you workroom lawyers, when you put on your carrier uniforms, some of which could use a good rinsing at least, remember this, you LOSE your first amendment rights. And Congress will probably side with you, slugs usually stick together.
Well, lets see…..ok, ok, ok….if every single one of us who doesn’t want the Postal Service dictating our First Amendment Rights in the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION …should write, write, write, and write some more to every senator, congressman and any other person we want to WRITE to because that is our right under the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA….not only will our congresspeople get the message but we will increase revenue…We are AMERICANS WITH THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. The USPS is a little to big for their britches and their house of cards is crumbling. Of course they want us to keep our mouths shut….it’s like a modern day plantation: PostMASTER, and our retirement and health benefits plans (which we do pay a pretty penny to be bestowed them) are the chains that keep us there…..They just don’t want us tellin’ John Q Public about the whippins’.
I think we ought to apply what Issa is pushing starting with Congress. Start with the most senior people and work your way down. Anyone who has been there over 4 years should be gone. Term limits are a must! Make them pay for everyday items like HEALTHCARE, and they should have the same choices we have….they are no better than anyone else.
Then we can start with UPPER LEVEL postal management. They are the ones who make the BIG bucks. How many jobs could be saved if their sorry butts were gone? They don’t even TOUCH the mail. We are the ones who actually process and deliver the mail. All they do is push a pencil, make IDIOTIC decisions, rearrange and rework things about facilities they have never been in, and pat themselves on the back. Then they rape the Postal Service by taking a bonus…some to the tune of MILLIONS of dollars when they go. Shame on them! They make triple and beyond what our salaries are, and don’t even pay their healthcare costs. UNBELIEVABLE! Quit raping the Postal Service and the hard working employees who actually CARE about customer service.
Let’s not confuse the “actual customers” with facts. The public is finally waking up to the people running the PO.. This sounds like something right out of Communist Red China.
Since the post office cherry-picks the parts of the ELM it is going to follow and ignores the rest, i tend to do the same.
Less talking, more working!
who the hell blocked out the managers name????
we want to know what asshole put thisout!!!!
what city did this letter come from???
Strength in numbers…
Participate in the informational pickets alongside your Union brothers and sisters. I did. It was well worth my time and draws attention to our plight. It was great to see our citizens smiling, waving, honking horns to show their support. There are many varied opinions on the best way to solve our financial woes. The bottom line is that our elected officials and USPS Board of Governors will have the final say, whether we like it or not. Hang in there folks and play it smart.
I didn’t serve in the Military so that the USPS could order me to keep my mouth shut. F-YOU
Are we in Communist China? Next thing – Issa will draw-up a bill saying that Postal Workers can’t say anything negative about him or his policies.
hmmm, seems to me we have the hatch act to silence us from participating in partisan politics on the clock, but if a customer asks me a question that is not directly related to any party? will i still be there? how does one answer? i guess we all just say we are in the same boat, public, and private….
what we do or say off the clock is our own choice as far as postal closings go, as an active employee, it would maybe be best to function as someone who gives advice….that would not prohibit me from providing my family and friends who chose to speak out with information, nor do i think if we are citizens of the affected area that we can be prohibited from speaking out, as citizens…but read lightly, and be mindful of the hatch act….off duty and on duty…..
go retirees….speak your mind and advocate!!
To Harvey
ACTIVE Status does not mean on the clock.. look in your personnel file on lightblue.com… If you currently work for the USPS you are on ACTIVE Status.. Then there is Non Active status.. like if you take a long leave of absence or you are in the Military.. your job is being held for you.. Then there is Terminated which means you have been seperated from Active Service.. which means you either Retired or was fired.
I believe the Postmaster General himself broke this so called rule when he stepped forth at least 7 times before Congress and asked for Changes to the way the mail is going to be delivered!
All this is posted on U-Tube for the whole world to see and yet some moron puts this PDR out to all USPS employees . The ELM Rule in Question here is not about our informational pickets and how SUCCESSFUL THEY WERE.This ELM LAW does not apply in this case.. I believe we as Unions should fight this however we could and have the USPS RE-EDUCATE their managers in the Proper use of ELM LAWS- which until now the USPS has simply ignored.
Funny how the USPS Twists things to their benefit. It is like playing a game of Monopoly with someone who creates their own rules to win the game.
Look at how they have ignored the ELM — National Reassement PROGRAM broke many ELM RULES… check this out.. Failure to Reasonably accomodate injured employees — within their offices — within their crafts– within their shifts– within their pay charts. They left a trail of Discrimination so vast.. that it will take a decade or more for all of the cases to be finished and that alone will cost the USPS millions upon millions of dollars in the near future.. not only with attorneys fees but also with court and compensatory and punitive damages.
Look at the 120 thousand employees in the McConnell Class Action … not including the 2 other class action cases that are set before EEOC.
Engaging and expressing themselves before Congress and for the world to see… does that not break the same rule they seem to be applying to their own employees?– Obviously they want to eat steak but we are forced to eat slop when it comes to their way of thinking.
what part of save american postal jobs is a negative towards the postal service we want to keep our job and be a part of the american way of life. Ending our jobs would put 660 ,000 people on unemployment how much would that cost you tax payers get a clue
Active status means “On the clock” ya do do heads. You can participate if off the clock.
Just finished mail count for rural carriers,route is 42k- 50.5 hrs. would take about 46.5 hrs do to in 5 days. 5+ hours of o/t for me vs 8+ hrs for rca. only savings is ema. after my tsp payment post office loses more money
Hatch Act !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hatch Act !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIRST THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY MY JOB AND NO MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH?????
I AS AN AMERICAN HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE RIGHT TO PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE. I WILL NOT STOP PRACTICING EITHER OF THEM.
I AM AN AMERICAN FIRST AND A POSTAL WORKER LAST~!
This is misleading. I can post what I want, when I want as long as it’s not derogatory against the Postal Service. I can also participate in community events, write to my congressman, and exercise my 1st Amendment rights under the Constitution. What I cannot do under 667 of the ELM is say things that are against or disloyal to my service. I can say that my boss and I have had sex on numerous occasions in the office. I cannot say who my boss is or where I work. I can say that I have engaged in illicit activities with my employees. I cannot say who they are or where I work. Do you understand? I don’t think you do. I must get back to my computer games now while earning top dollar in a secretarial role.
Basically, this is PMG Donohoe telling us all to bend over. That guy is no better than John Potter was. No wonder the USPS is in such a mess. A million solutions to consider, and the only one he chooses to see is to lay 200,000 of us off. Congress ought to lay him off.
RU kidding me ? The WORKERS have done nothing but sacrifice for this company…while the so called managers have done such positive things like hiring more Exec.’s so we can MANAGE our way out ! HA-HA !!!! We had an Idiot PMG for 12 years who never made a penny and walked away with $10 million severance and now we have his hand picked IDIOT replacement to finish us off….SO we should just sit back and enjoy the pain….UP yer butts Joboo !!!!! I got an Idea, time for the exec’s to line up and fall on their swords ! It would finally show a little honor !!!!!!!!!!!
Baucus’ bill builds on legislation introduced in the House of Representatives by adding the protection for rural offices. Postal workers recently rallied in support of the House bill at Post Offices across Montana.
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union workers dont sign these petitions that the union wants done before oct 29 . they want to keep 6 day delivery . there is not enough mail to justify 6 day delivery. 5 day delivery is the way to go it saves 3 billion a year all these crack head union leaders want is more union dues coming in,while they get there greasy hands and stuff there pockets with union dues. 5 DAY DELIVERY IS THE WAY TO GO JUST LIKE MOST AMERICANS WORK MON- FRI
Management is scared and desperate now.
They will do all they can to prevent Congress from joining the employees side in the USPS mess created by past management and current management.
Even it means trying to block postal emplyees First Amendment Rights.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Issa and Ross suggested to management to come up with this warning.
Sounds like something they would come up with.
Note:
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
A brief message to managers and supervisors. You lie , is also again the elm. Keep reading you may actually find some useful information.
I’m an employee of the USPS. I am also an actual customer. Those two terms are not mutually exclusive. I am also a member of my community. I am a member of the public. Hear me speak, and judge me by my words.
This message was approved by Thomas Jefferson.
corporate fascists: the statement also says that being part of labor allows for comment
Hey, we’re part of the community too.
the IDIOTS on top think were idiots on the bottom, i’ ll do what i want off the clock
So I guess the upper-level so-called managers who are advocating “changes in mail service” will now be in trouble, right?? Oh wait – it said it applies to those in “active status.” Since those folks are part of the non-productive personnel, I guess they are in ‘passive status,’ so can push whatever agenda gets them the biggest bonus!
The reason they put the no lay off clause in was so we would not strike. So no that no lay off is out I see no reason we can’t strike.
Wait are we breeching our contract?? Ummm what about the part where it says no lay offs??? Be faithful??? Ummm OKKKKKKKK
Does that include the Postmaster General who is also a postal worker? He, after all, is campaigning to make a 5 day delivery week?
So, this part of the contract they want to uphold.
Or is this in the ELM?
Which, I guess is more important than a contract
Hey asswhole managers….read the FIRST Amendment. Try and screw with us and the ACLU will be all over you like ignorance on a manager.
Off the clock.
MESSAGE TO MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS: NOW THEY ARE ATTACKING OUR FUNDEMENTAL RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AND PROTEST… DONT BACK DOWN AND KEEP UP THE PROTESTS!!!!!
MESSAGE TO POSTMASTER DONAHOE: FUCK YOU!
Have no fear. Omar will make sure everything comes to a dead stop at the union so tons of grievances can be filed on this. That’ll show em! Expect some sort of article from him on this! What a guy! He’s a fighter! WowWeee!
“Vote for me and I’ll set you free…rap on brutha-rap on!”
WARNING
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO
FOOEY TO YOU
Why would the want the customer to hear both sides of the story? Could it be that they wan to lie without being required to provide proof?
When I am off the clock and out of uniform I am a Postal customer. OH- I almost forgot, I am an American citizen also..
ACLU time….
So it’s OK for them to break our contract but not OK for us?
For: Hello to Change,
You either are blind to all the BS inside the PO, or you don’t have a clue because you don’t work there. If you don’t know, then don’t comment.
According to this memo, the PMG violated the ELM by talking to Congress and, therefore, should be re-educated.
Time to fire all active “Postals” who participate and conspire to go postal, and cut the retirement benefits of the “Postals” who conspire to influence the community for their exclusive benefit of going postal.
Austerity now for the useless overpaid Postal employees.
Someone track down Postal Fred, he may be going postal.
Gone postal.
So labor can, and if you belong to a Union, OK, just do it as a union member !
Yes, retired or not, we must appease the corrupt managers, they need the bonus,
do resist.
They use the term “re-educate”. Sounds like the same thing the Nazis and Commies used to do. I have the right to speak my mind when I am off the clock. The Post Office, being part of the Federal Government, cannot infringe upon that right.
I surely hope they are not trying to tell a retired worker what to do. I put up with their crap for over 30 years. I’ll be dammmed if I’m going to let any postal sup tell me what to do. I’ll punch you right in the face you moran supervisor.
So they are basically telling us to stand aside and let them do what they want to do with no resistance? I don’t think so. We are fighting for our jobs and we will do what it takes to keep them, not have upper management steam roll us. Do they honestly think we are idiots? I will have them know, we know more about what’s best for the USPS then they do. Tell them to “step aside” and let us take over and do what’s right. They’ve shown us they don’t know how, or maybe it’s more like they won’t.