Negotiations near deadline: The 2006-2011 National Agreement between the NALC and the USPS expires at midnight Sunday, Nov. 20. The entire 28-member NALC Executive Council is in Washington, DC, conducting round-the-clock contract negotiations as the parties consider a whole range of issues that take into account the economy, wages, cost-of-living adjustments and health benefits. Please check back for further updates.
source: The National Association of Letter Carriers, AFL-CIO.
Since were siding up im going with (Yon from Elmira) post.
I liked it so much i want a to Recap 🙂
“Well my man, go to Arbitration, APWU sold out and got the shit kicked out of them, they are in rapid decline, see if APWU officers take a cut , no, they just raise dues, they should have gone and asked for big bucks , now we get crap and excessed to carrier crafts in other states, but now those other crafts will get crap, because APWU and the crap CBA will be used against them, the USPS is a forgone conclusion, Fat Boy PMG has sung, the Fat Lady is next, and the end is soon.
layoffs are not too far off, if there is not any VER soon”.
The American People seem to think no MAIL on SATURDAY only too.
All three of the postal unions are WEAK.
Fact.
I don’t think the APWU got it’s ass kicked in negotiations. I don’t think we got a crap contract. We have maintained most of our health benefits, especially if you are in the APWU healthplan. We will be getting pay increases and COLA increases. We did agree to Non Traditional Full Time positions, however, if there are ANY of these positions posted and filled, there can be NO MANDITORY OT.
Be carefull what you wish for…an abritrator is obligated to take into account the wages of the people in the the private sector with “similar” job descriptions when deciding what your wages will be. Yes Donahoe has made a mockery of the collective bagaining procedure by negotiating our contract, testifying before congress that both sides should be applauded for their efforts and then, before the ink was even dry, telling congress that they need to do away with the no layoff clause in the contract he just signed.
I agree with Streetwalker, there is nothing that says 5 day delivery means Mon-Fri. And I agree with Dennis Enderson, that the APWU, to some extent, bit the bullet and made some concessions (although if you sat down and read our new contract–there aren’t that many and not as bad as you make them out to be) and negotiated a fair contract for both sides. I don’t believe, in these economic and Representative Daryl Issa driven times, arbitration would be in your best interest. I wish you luck…Be careful what you wish for!
5 day delivery DOES NOT mean Mon thru Fri delivery…Mgt has never said no Sat delivery. They aren’t going to give carriers two consecutive days off. It will be Sunday and Tuesday off, or Sunday and Thursday. Don’t count on two day weekends. When does mgt. do any favors for carriers? Remember, last negotiations NALC proposed a Sat. workforce (te’s, retired, etc.) and for NALC to take over health insurance, but was shot down by mgt negotiating team.
go to 5 day delivery NOW …. ndcbu s are in, curbside out. get rid of half the supervisors, do drug testing at major facilities…. tampa if full of druggies.
Oh, come on. How can people be so blind, dumb and stupid? Postal Service has no intention of offering NALC anything that would be termed acceptable. They hate those carriers because they need them so badly!
Yes, we all know that Congress has the power to abrogate collective bargaining agreements but we have the power to vote their assess out! Workers unite. Stop feeling bad for demanding a fair share of the pie. When NFL and NBA do it, you don’t hear complaints. When postal workers do it, their greedy!
What a mentality? Self-loathing? I don’t know what to call it but it’s sick!
Since the USPS was able to PAY ALL THAT OT for almost 8 Months Straight..forcing many carriers to work OT with hardly any days off..Why not jsut ask for 30-36 per hour since they werent too concerned about how much all of it was going to Cost them anyhow….shouldnt be a Big Deal…as they were paying it Anyhow!
Well my man, go to Arbitration, APWU sold out and got the shit kicked out of them, they are in rapid decline, see if APWU officers take a cut , no, they just raise dues, they should have gone and asked for big bucks , now we get crap and excessed to carrier crafts in other states, but now those other crafts will get crap, because APWU and the crap CBA will be used against them, the USPS is a forgone conclusion, Fat Boy PMG has sung, the Fat Lady is next, and the end is soon.
layoffs are not too far off, if there is not any VER soon.
I don’t want to go to five day either, or at least until we’re assured the only jobs lost would be through attrition. I’m afraid a five day week is inevitable and while having a Saturday off like other workers get would have its nice points, has anybody realized that we would have to use a lot more leave because we’d have to take AL and SL for business that can’t be done on Saturday, like DMV, doctor appointments with family doctors, not some resident quack in an ER where you could wait an entire weekend for a hangnail?
Since the Service doesn’t give a damn what I think as a 27 year letter carrier, I do think they’ll eventually get that five day week. In that event, the NALC should demand that Article 8 be modified in accordance with the influx of unassigned regular carriers that we’ll have after the displaced T-6’s bid and get their own routes. It should have language that states no regular letter carrier who does not want overtime will be required to work it, regardless of circumstance.
With the displaced carriers that would result from a five day week, there would be no excuse for not having available auxiliary assistance for anybody, regardless of how many were on leave. We would benefit because the Service would have to keep enough carriers to get the mail out.
There of course would still be the OTDL lists, but I myself hate it. I’m so worn out any more, and there’s plenty of carriers who love the extra bucks.
I am on a permanent 8 hour restriction due to major shoulder surgery about a year and a half ago, so really it’s not that big of a deal to me, but having that contract language that would forbid overtime (including holidays) for all but those regulars who sign the list, along with TE’s and PTF’s, it would be a good thing and allow us to spend more time at home with our families and our lives beyond that post office. Imagine some supervisor who would love to mandate you to go out and carry a swing after you’ve come back and had a bad day, and you had the power to tell him no, and he would have no power to force you to carry it. It would be as iron clad as the rule that restricted carriers can’t be forced to do something that violates their job description.
I guarantee you offices would be better staffed and less carriers would be laid off. Now let’s see if the NALC has the guts to go down that road.
SORRY…..ARBITRATION….HARD WORD TO SPELL…..
SAID IT MONTHS AGO AND WILL SAY IT AGAIN….
GO RIGHT TO ARBRATATION……..USPS HAS NO INTENTIONS OF GIVING ANYTHING….
G0 TO ARBRATATION!!!!!!!
Regardless of whether the parties settle or end up in arbitration, Congress can alter the results, so it really doesn’t matter, legally speaking. Far better to negotiate a contract because it would be much more difficult to persuade legislators to interfere with a mutually agreed upon agreement as opposed to one that is imposed by an arbitrator.
If you knew how arbitration actually works, you would not want to go to a formal hearing under current economic conditions. The APWU bit the bullet and made concessions to minimize its losses. I hope the NPMHU and the NALC show the same kind of courage and common sense. It would be cowardly to push their contracts into arbitration just so they could blame the arbitrators for any losses to avoid taking responsibility.
Let’s hope we can get a fair contract. If we can get to keep what we have now as far as what our share of health benefits, retirement, and keep our cola’s I’d be happy. Any kind of a raise would be an extra with this economy.
I’d also hope the NALC doesn’t do a long agreement, like the 5 year one we’re coming off. 3or 4 would be to my liking. I still can’t believe that fellow workers would want Saturday delivery stopped. It would hurt a lot of people just so some could have week ends off? Kind of selfish.
Wait a minute…I get my state welfare check on Saturday. Pick another day, I need that money to buy my street drugs.
Do you like being on top? or the bottom?
ARBITRATION!!!!!!!!
MAILHANDLERS AND CARRIERS…RUN, DON’T WALK TO ARBITRATION. LOOK AT DONAHOES ACTIONS THEN DECIDE IF YOU ARE TO TRUST A WORD THIS KNUCKLEHEAD SAYS……donahoe is the worst postmaster general
the usps ever had in my humble opinion. donahoe keeps screwing over postal customers and giving them less service and more hoops to jump through, then
knucklehead donahoe blames all the decline we experience in mail on the internet INSTEAD of the real problem which is postal management is resposible for the decline in revenues because of their service hurting policies!
DON–A–HOE MUST GO……
DON-A-HOE MUST GO…..
Go to 5 day deliver on 3 billion savings per year wow
Onto to Arbitration. Management signed a new contract with the APWU and immediately asked Congress to toss it out. They are in arbitration with the rurals.
Now they will be in arbitration with both the NALC and the mailhandlers.
Management recently announced the bonus’s foe the top 5 do nothing “leaders”.
The average bonus is approx $250,000 for people running an enterprise that lost $5.1 BILLION DOLLARS….now who says crime doesn’t pay?